By: Tikender Panwar
One of the lessons I learnt during my initial days with Marxism on the subject of philosophy in the course of study classes from Prof Kashyap was that we must view things not in the sense they are but in their ‘coming into being’ and ‘going out of being’. That nothing is permanent and everything changes except the law of change. And this applies to life as well. People or, we, are born, live and die. So everyone who is born will die. As a communist, I was also taught that this journey from ‘coming into being ’or life to ‘going out of being ’or death has to be fought hard and this fight is termed as ‘struggle’, which is the primary source for making our lives better. And it is during this journey that the material and spiritual or ideal conditions are to be enhanced properly and disseminated in an egalitarian manner for a better living. Proper and scientific health care, with its evolving form, may also fall within this ambit. But, the Himachal Pradesh government has been pursuing to promote a particular kind of medicinal system being propagated by a particular self-declared expert, which may prove a great blunder in ensuring the health of people.
But I am appalled when I find people like self-styled or media-hyped gurus or swamis falling back to mysticism under the garb of science and playing with the lives of people. I recollect one of my senior colleague Mohar Singh’s work ‘A study of Khasas in the Himalayan region’ where mysticism plays a pivotal role in diagnosis and treatment of health related problems. Now, unfortunately, with the shift of government-run hospitals towards commercialization and finally privatization, once again people are forced to fall back to such myopic mystic treatment.
Coming back to my basic premise that a proper health care in right direction is a right of every citizen and also that hoodwinking of people be checked is another paradigm that the government must ensure. I have some half-a-dozen glaring examples where the lives of the people could have been saved had they not fallen prey to unprecedented hype of the controversial Baba – Ramdev. It is true that the victims, I would call them as such, were not forced to leave the regular course of their treatment but voluntarily left the government hospitals for an ashram. Also that there is no legal contract whereby all that he pronounces with respect to his assurance of treatment of a disease can be brought to book . But, still I feel culpability cannot be shelved in the innumerable cases who became victims because of the unprecedented hype generated in various television channels. When a practicing doctor can be booked for negligence, why a person or an institution not be booked for culpable homicide. Perhaps, it will take some more time and, unfortunately, more lives. Briefly, I would like to present those with whom I was familiar and thought they would not leave me that soon:
A young daughter of Bansi Lal was one such victim. I was acquainted to him as we fought the struggle against the demolition of Dharas, i.e. hutments. She had malignancy in the anus and was admitted to IGMC. The doctors were planning a surgery with a fair chance of recovery. But instead, Baba intervened through TV channels, and they took the child away and again came back to the hospital after a period of over 6 months with malignancy entering her intestines. She died recently, – was just 18 years of age.
Prabhu Devi, aged 65 years, mother of Ramesh, an old friend of mine who shared his desk with me during my college days, had a stone in the gall bladder and was to be operated upon. But instead, ‘the light of knowledge fell’ again through the channels and she got discharged from the medical hospital and went into the laps of the same Baba. The gall stone problem developed further into engaging the liver and the woman died after a period of three years.
A young girl named Reeta (changed name), aged 34 years, came with gastric obstruction and was to be operated upon in the month of February 2009 in a government hospital. Once again ‘light from heaven fell’ to her and she ran away the previous night from the hospital and took refuge in Baba’s camp. Just a fortnight ago she once again came back to the hospital; the only difference being she was in a state of coma. Thanks to the medical fraternity, her life was saved.
Similarly, I know of 6 other cases, with 4 women and 2 men in the age group of 22 to 35 years. Interestingly all were detected with cancer in the anal region and were to be operated but the power of Baba is so strong that the hospital authorities could not save them from his path of extreme liberty from worldly affairs and are no more on this earth.
There are quite a number of others who have lost their close ones. But, will there be any cognizance of the fact what to talk about any punitive action is anybody’s guess?
Pls do not question anybody beliefs and most importantly the concepts and theories about the thing which u don't know, i admit there are some 'dhongis' due to which one developes hatred against religion and cosmic powers after losing some close ones, but there are some powers which u don't know exist in our environment….
which cosmic powers you are talking about? All these 'babas'' are dhongi. Have you ever been able to feel these so called Cosmic powers
Poor Tikender is worried about someone's job security. So called modern medical science kills much more after robbing the patients financially. My father was asked to go for knee replacement surgery by doctor in Bombay. He was saved by doing Ramdev pranayama for 9 months, 1-2 hours every morning and evening. The cartilage is back, the fluid filled in the knee is gone and he walks without crutches. Other benefits are that his BP is normal now and sinus problems are gone too and saved lacs of rupees and sufferings. The key is time and discipline.
Dear Rajesh, u r saying that modern ,edical science kills more people than by Dhongi babas. but u r forgetting that it is the modern medical science that provides trearment against all kind of diseases. in the world there is not only the problem of knee but are problems of hearts, hiv, swine flu, and it is modern science that saves us from these. here me and Tikender are not opposing yoga but the question is different. kindly read the article properly and think about it.
Dear Viren,
Yes it provides treatment but millions still die in hospitals. And there are many diseases for which there is no cure in modern medical science which have been cured by Baba's yoga/pranayama/ayurveda. Yes I've read the article and it's biased. Tikender is only looking at Baba's 5% failute while ignoring 95% good he's doing. That's the point I want to make. Nothing is 100% perfect but appreciate the positive side too.
oh poor 'bhakt of Baba Ramdev' this yoga is not a gift of baba Ramdev it was developed centuries ago By Patanjali. Ramdev is just earning through it although its not his patent and what you think people who practise this yoga don't die they also die my dear friend.
Dear Viren,
Yes it provides treatment but millions still die in hospitals. And there are many diseases for which there is no cure in modern medical science which have been cured by Baba's yoga/pranayama/ayurveda. Yes I've read the article and it's biased. Tikender is only looking at Baba's 5% failure while ignoring 95% good he's doing. That's the point I want to make. Nothing is 100% perfect but appreciate the positive side too.
Yes people have discontinued treatment for Diabetes, hypertension and started taking medicines from babas' pharmacies, the ingeredients of which are yet to be proven by scienctific evidence. It would not have been a matter of concern if they remained stable or improved, but to the contrary, the majority landed into poor control after stopping medine use. HIV positves squandered life savings on buying there exhorbitantly priced mediicnes in hope of cure, (when Anti Retroviral Treatment is being rpovided free by the govt).. eventuallly they did not get cured and felt cheated.. but have no recourse to their grievances. Alternate medicine can be best used as complimentary but not as stand alone treatment. Well, there is mising service provision which faith health healing addresses, in absence of mental health services, the only choice with people is faith healing. Babas teaching Yoga and postive living is Good, but they should not meddle into pharmacy business, giving unqaulified and uncalled for damaging medical advice and profiteering on their popularity.
Tikender, you replaced my comment, wow! You are doing good job for who ever is paying you 🙂
ha.ha.ha.
dear nobody is paying for him. its his concern regarding the society so that he is doin work for people
First nobody becomes 'baba' only after self-proclamation. It is the masses who has to choose whatever is given to them. His treatments are not 100% and for that matter nothing on this world can be pure (100%). The therapy used by "baba ramdev' is cheap and at times cost-effective for many (I am saying this after many of whom i know, underwent yoga sessions of 'baba ramdev' and got cured.
Few cases raised and brought to acknowledgement are fair enough for integrity of that system. As system which says am 100% is deliberately prevaricating. But here, as brought by you, we have some unfortunate cases which were failures so that says all about the integrity of the yoga therapy practiced.
Tikender what you intended (my interpretation) from this article was more on role of media and sensationalism of the issues which affect the mass mentality to a large extent. The cases you have mentioned were probably influenced to an extent where their rationality was taken over by the mysticism which was shown on media about 'baba ramdev's' yoga therapy. Being a part of media, I know how every institution and famous person ‘influences and manipulate’ the information given in the media. Media per se has no fault of it, first is corporate structure and then vision of profit and service conflict. These are the issues which are alarming and need an open discussion. Today media is the most powerful tool for the fact; it alone has the sole power of shaping and manipulating mass mentality.
I feel that it is personal choice of every person and today 'filtration of the information’ is needed more than ever due to the media explosion in present century. Awareness about the issues and investigative journalism for the well being and development of our society is need of the hour.
Well from your writing I understand the emotional outburst which has come out through your words is right, but my dear friend sole responsibility on ‘media’ or ‘Baba Ramdev’ won’t be appropriate. Aren’t people who went to his camps after watching on their ‘idiot box’ at some fault of theirs?
I don't understand why marxists are against the hinduism.I have strong belief in Ayurveda and Yoga ,the way of life, that is what Baba Ramdev is teaching. I myself undergone a treatment by water , yoga and body massage in Nature cure hospital at Ambala. I spent 12 days, in 1990. I was cured 100%.Now, I do visit the place just to revitalise my body (it is not a treatment,just way of life) once in two years and I have too hundred of examples who were cured successfully..
Exactly !!
Both of my comments are back after I called and complained to the editor.
@vikram singh rawat
Don't worry, Baba ramdev will remove Marxist/CPM cancer also from India in next election.
Dear Sir,
I am amazed that people like you are commenting in such manner .. Sir it is not the case election.or faith …….some tried to suicide when Sonia Gandhi was projected as P.M. What will you call that ???? Faith ,Believe ,Emotion,or madness,………..My suggestion for the people who make such kind of comments is …….Be Rational….Try to Differentiate between orthodoxy and scientific attitude .Neither Baba is 100% pure nor Allopathy is pure so it is combination of all . So let him teach Yoga but not politics as he usually seen while taking Yoga Classes……..
if marxist are cancer my dear 'Sanghi' or Bhagat of ramdev or what can I say these babas So called hindus who always try to make India a hindu state by killing peoples on the bases of religion.. and I think You are also with same mindset
Communism is dead but Communists are alive ! Their mental make-up is to protest no matter what…The idea of their edu was to open their empty minds and not fill it with half-baked info.
i can only pity on these comments and a fresh case of a woman lecturer stands admitted in igmc shimla in female medicine ward with brain hemorrhage.; once again thanks to ramdev for continuous delay in treatment because of his mysticism.
may lord save her life from the bloody clutches of such babas .
amazing. the comments, i mean. it's hard to believe what's worse – the fact that people still believe in all this baba BS or the fact that they're trying to support these people. personally, i dont think any of these people who have trashed tikender for bring this up, have ever looked around themselves and seen the filth that they live in. was watching a scene from an average indian town the other day on TV, the streets looked disgusting. disgusting is not a word strong enough to describe it actually. horrid. when was the last time any of you went outside your house and cleaned (or even thought of cleaning) a few metres of filth? did any baba (especially the ones on TV) ask his followers to take a look at our country? did anyone? because i'd like to becomes a follower. pronto.
(by the way, i dono agree with most of the communists, i actuallu think most of them are completely nuts….)
All said and done, this remains a matter of personal choice, for most part I would go with Akhilesh. As the poet Pope said:
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate'er is best administered is best.
we need to substitute medicine / treatment for "Government ".
Docs are no 'holy cows' either…with so many 'munnabhai's' around is anyone still in safer hands…the recent case in point is not so long ago PMT scam which noone speaks about! ! What kind of docs they'd have turned out to be or are already there!?
Oh my god the PMT case is here again, anyway the clutches of such babas are dangerous, as said yoga needs time and dedication it is our ancient culture and we need to preserve it but at the same time not at the cost of human lives. The media houses who broadcast such shows should look into the matter but they wont do it because their so called profit will decrease and their rivals get an opportunity to move ahead.
This is something serious and not only the government but even the masses need to understand what is good and bad, a thing which can be beneficial for someone can be dangerous for other.
No doubt the doctors in IGMC are the best ones and the fraternity is working hard to help people know the pros and cons of going into such hands but it all depends on the patients and their beloved well wishers who try and give them all kind of suggestions at such times.
How many of you would visit a friend/relative in the hospital when s/he has been operated? almost everyone because if you wont go they would feel you are not a good friend or you are not social, but friends at such times too doctors say "not too many visitors because there are chances of infection" but how many of you follow such instructions, its not your fault but our society is such and the people who fall prey to such babas are the ones who want to get rid of disease without looking into the seriousness of it and poor chaps listen to every second visitor and run from pillar to post in search of remedy and ultimately when situation gets worse they return to the doctors who have less or no time left and still the doctors are blamed but not the channels, visitors, well wishers and the babas.
I think the comments here are moving into serious troll. Some of the commentators here are shooting the messenger by targeting his political leanings. I think Himvani is open for all and anyone with any political leanings can post here. Pls refrain from comments like job security. Mud slinging will lead us no where.
This is a very serious issue. I will quote from my example. My family has a history of diabetes and my father is on insulin for past 20 years. He too went to the Baba's shivir in Haridwar. When he enrolled his sugar test was done. Once the shivir was over, his sugar test was done again. His sugar level had increased than what it was at the time of enrollment. He did not take any medicines their but followed the dietary plan and the yoga sessions mornings and evenings. Till date, he is on Insulin but he also follows the yoga sessions and the dietary plan as recommended to him.
Now as a patient, it is very frustrating to inject every day twice. He cannot travel freely, cannot go out for dinner, has a strict diet plan to follow and above all carry his insulin along where ever he go in an ice box. Under this circumstances, when you see people on TV vouching their disease has been cured, one is really tempted to try out the alternative. It is not that Yoga did not do anything to my father. His regular Yoga sessions keeps his blood pressure normal, no heart trouble etc. Yes, he even tried to shun the insulin once but then the sugar level rose dramatically. All I want to say, that the media packaging is so good that anyone can fall prey. Now it is up to the level of disease if it can be cured or not!
No one, doubts the power of Yoga. It is a way of life. It is not that one does Yoga for a month and he is cured of the disease. It has to be made a way of life to let you have a disease free body later. Baba, has at least raised awareness levels of making a Yoga a way of life. I would agree with him till this point. Selling prescription and medicines is dangerous.
Continuous longer level of medication makes the patients look for alternate as I have said in my example. Rest, we Indians are expert in making our Babas as Godmen. It is our tendency. Even a village quack who cures one patient out of 100, holds more power over a qualified doctor. This is in our upbringing. We have been brought up on Chandamama stories and we seriously believe them.
Regarding Akarshan's comment above about IGMC doctors, the docs here in this hospital work in in-human conditions. This is a sweat shop for the resident docs. Hats off they still manage to attend the patients. Their working conditions are pathetic. [I am not commenting whether they are best or not] Where as the docs posted in villages have a life of royalty. And if a local lad is posted as a doc around his village he is an emperor of his fiefdom. I can vouch for this!!
It is not only Baba Ram Dev but almost all the babas who are into this business of misguiding people of our nation. They can never be called ''patriots''.Baba ram Dev is unnecessarily exploiting the word ''side effect'' which in medical terminology means additional effects or effects in addition to the actual effects of medicines. No substance on this earth can be without any effect when it is introduced into the body somehow. He forgets about the toxic effects of ''jadi booties'' which are also called phytochemicals. Humans are to be treated on one to one basis and con't be generalized by preaching on the television. All these babas are committing grave crimes by becoming ayurvedic scientists. It is not the question of Marxism or spiritualism but of human safety !!!!!!Dr. K Rajesh
Dr K Rajesh ,it is not you but the intensive study you have done, is writing these lines . Due to slow treatment ,the ayurveda is diminishing. But in the meeting of hundreds still people would like to adopt Ayurveda instead of your pathy(that's why people are following simplest techniques of yoga),.There are , may be more, different fields like allopathy, ayurveda,homeopathy and naturopathy. Unfortunately ,the Expert of one particular science does not agree with other's treatment. Dr Ramdev, Baba Ramdev is not against the allopathy,but he is of the opinion that yoga(The whole of the world is adopting) should be made way of life. A Yogi may have to go to the surgery .Also may Drs are also doing yoga. what ever you prescribe is Allopathy, whatever you advise is part of Yoga.
Dr K Rajesh ,it is not you but the intensive study you have done, is writing these lines . Due to slow treatment ,the ayurveda is diminishing. But in the meeting of hundreds still people would like to adopt Ayurveda instead of your pathy(that's why people are following simplest techniques of yoga),.There are , may be more, different fields like allopathy, ayurveda,homeopathy and naturopathy. Unfortunately ,the Expert of one particular science does not agree with other's treatment. Baba Ramdev is not against the allopathy,but he is of the opinion that yoga(The whole of the world is adopting) should be made way of life. A Yogi may have to go to the surgery .Also may Drs are also doing yoga. what ever you prescribe is Allopathy, whatever you advise is part of Yoga.
Mr Rawat, dont doubt medical science, if you have not used the science of medicine in your life, then you must be correct.. but it is not question of YOUR PATHY.
I COMMEND THE BABA FOR demystifying and POPULARISING YOGA as a way of life.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I STRONGLY CONDEMN HIM FOR MEDDLING INTO PHARMACY BUSINESS.
@krajesh_shimla
Hey Doc K Rajesh! Looks like you are really upset and angry that baba Ramdev is hurting your business 🙂 Cool down man and do some anulom vilom to reduce your stress and anger and then think what is your aim in life. To serve humanity or make money at any cost even if you have to spread misinformation and defend horrible side effects of medicines.
I was prescribed Vytorin by my doctor to control the cholesterol. It was costing something like $1/day or more and it had horrible side effects. My knee, neck, hip, elbow joints started having pain and I had to stop it. It took about 6 months of baba's pranayam and yoga exercises to get back to normal and now my cholesterol is normal too and I've not paid baba even 1 cent. And you are downplaying these side effects!
I think what baba is teaching is 70% healthy life style which helps one stay disease free and 30% also helps to cure many diseases. Some of these disease can be cured successfully like, cholesterol, asthma, BP, migraine, thyroid and many more. For about 5% critical cases it doesn't work or doesn't work fast enough so allopathy is only alternative.
You and others in your self interest are bad mouthing baba, trying to indict him for the 5% failure while ignoring other 95% good he's doing. If you look at what you have done for others selflessly, you'll shocked to find that it's like peck of dust in comparison to what baba is doing for others. Your thinking is too selfish and westernized. This is shameful.
YOUR MAIL IS ABUSIVE. YOU NEED TO RATIONALLY THINK AND NOT BE DEFENSIVE OF A GODMAN.
YOU HAVE NOT PAID FOR MEDICINES BUT I HAVE SEEN BABA PHARMACYMEDICINES BEING SOLD LIKE HOTCAKES AND AIDS PAITENTS SOLD OFF ALL HER BELONGINGS TO BUY MEDIINES IN FALSE HOPE AND THEN DISAPPOINTED AND DISILUSIONED.
MAY BE YOU COULD ADVISE HIM TO GIVE THESE PANCAEA FREE, SO THAT AT LEAST PEOPLE ARE NOT AT LOSS. IT IS SHMEFUL THAT BABA IS MINTING MONEY AND PEOPLE are ENDORSing HIM. GIVE FREE SERVICE, LIKE YOGA CLASSES. I MEAN DONT CHARGE TICKETS, DONT ASK FOR MONEY FROM THE POOR, EVEN GOVT GIVES FREE TREATMENT TO BPL.
Dear Mr. Sood, looks like you too need to do Anulom Vilom to reduce your stress level and not shout while replying 🙂 What I posted it is true although it hurts to medical business related people like you. And he's not godman like others. I too don't like god man.
Ramdev says that for 90% cases no medicines are needed and even for other cases medicines are close to material cost, not 1000 times like other pharmaceutical companies. He does gives free medicines and yoga classes to poor and charges very nominal from who can afford to run his mission. He's not after money so that he can buy BMW and Merc and other things for personnel luxury like we all do.
Think for a moment why are you in medical business, to serve humanity or to make money? He'll either look like savior or enemy number one accordingly.
Mister whosoever you are, shut up and fight with your wife.. you havbe no sense to hurl personal abuse. For your information I am not a businessman.
I work work HIV prevention in the government sector. Did I say anyuthing against yoga? Nor do I Have personal or professional enemity with any of you. For your information again, Himachal is the only state the promotes rational ayurveda and the ayurvedic dispensaries with qualified experts in ayurvedic system of medicine are there all over the state. I had even endorsed baba taking free yoga classes…… no further.
If you suggest baba dispensaries, even after this, it is up to you now.
Dear Mr. Sood, now it's getting really interesting. Looks like you have started loosing your mental balance as you have started abusing. I requested you to cool down but you are doing just opposite, Wow! However I'm seeing a pattern now. In your first post you shouted at Baba, in second you shouted at me and blamed I'm abusing and now now this. I wonder what is next, don't start tearing your clothes please!
Remember, any time you raise your tone in any argument(by typing in all capital online) is an indication you can't come up with good counter arguments or can't stand criticism. May be being in government job you learned that everyone will agree with you or you can silence anyone by shouting at him. It doesn't always work like that.
Very Funny, now that you have no arguements or dont want to listen to rationlality, I reiterate that you reply specifically on these ponts:
Has Baba an AIDS vaccine? Is the Rational system of Ayurveda in Himachal Pradesh promoted through Department of Ayurveda a better and sceitnfic alternative to baba therapy? If Baba is not charging poor, why were some people forced to sell off land, to get his FREE medicine? Is the FREE like Apollo FREE beds which are never accessible? Is Baba the only person promoting Yoga in this universe? Why does he need to we bhagva vastra to do this? If yoga was a panacea, why did the scriptures have Charak Samhita?
I agree with Rajesh, just look at ourselves, we have forgotten our culture our literature and trying the western methods whereas you’ll see the guys in west are adopting yoga into thier lifestyle. if we ever treid to decode our scriptures that is vedas, we’ll find that the rishis or which i would like to say our ‘scientists’ have sacrificed thier lives for humanity sake researching on every aspect of nature and religion. They after so much of research created the spiritual anatomy of human body and whose main power resides in ‘Kundalini’.
Now yoga not only allows us to live healthy lifestyle, but it also helps us to recharge or awaken our serpentine energy, that is kundlini energy which is called ‘ki’ in martial arts.
So @krajesh_shimla instead of debating on our own culture why don’t u try some yoga exercises and mantra ucharans, i bet u’ll feel much better. just this much for the time being.
and by the way i consider myself also as scientist as am researching on our indian scriptures since 2 years, anyone interested in researching can reply to my comment
OM
Yes people have discontinued treatment for Diabetes, hypertension and started taking medicines from babas’ pharmacies, the ingeredients of which are yet to be proven by scienctific evidence. It would not have been a matter of concern if they remained stable or improved, but to the contrary, the majority landed into poor control after stopping medine use. HIV positves squandered life savings on buying there exhorbitantly priced mediicnes in hope of cure, (when Anti Retroviral Treatment is being rpovided free by the govt).. eventuallly they did not get cured and felt cheated.. but have no recourse to their grievances. Alternate medicine can be best used as complimentary but not as stand alone treatment. Well, there is mising service provision which faith health healing addresses, in absence of mental health services, the only choice with people is faith healing. Babas teaching Yoga and postive living is Good, but they should not meddle into pharmacy business, giving unqaulified and uncalled for damaging medical advice and profiteering on their popularity
Since the ongoing debate is never-ending let me… Recently predominantely muslim Malaysia 'banned' yoga as religious 'teaching' ! To cut it short the protests make the authorities beat a hasty retreat and Yoga was back in the majority muslim country !
Seeing the level to which this debate has stooped sometimes , i bet lord your are the most merciful one , let there be Babas , let there be medical science but please please let there be death …we all need peace dont we…….it keeps us human.
To Rajesh
I too have the same problem of needing a knee replacement, please give me advice on what pranayama to do
Thank you
Hello Monisha,
Do Kapalbhati and anulom vilom. Do two rounds of 15 minutes each for both pranayams. Repeat the same thing in evening. If possible increase to 3 rounds after some time. You should also do bhastrika(deep breating) for 5-10 minutes.
Drink more water like 3-4 liter's a day and eat more alkaline food i.e. vegetable etc
You will start seeing improvement in 3-4 months and will be normal in about 9-12 months. I'm saying this from what I've seen with my father. He also got rid of sinus and BP problems as bonus.
Thank you very much Rajesh
It is so nice to hear someone with personal experience of this. I am only 31, and have had severe arthritis for past 2 years, and in that time my cartilage from both knees has gone, I cannot walk, and am forced to sit in a wheelchair. Before 2 years I had no such problem and was walking and running.
Did your father have arthritis in the knees? You mentioned that his cartilage has grown back? That is truly amazing, what do his doctors think about that?
Monisha
Monisha,
My father didn't have arthritis, may be old age of 72 caused it. He lives in a small town near kanpur and tried local doctors, then kanpur doctors and then my brother took him to Bomaby. He was given many types of pain killers and steroids etc but was not helping. Since he was using the crutch on the wrong side, it caused more damage to the bone as shown in x-ray by bombay doctor and some fluid also got filled around knee. Doctor removed the fluid twice but it came back and the doctor recommended knee replacement.
He was very scared of operation and that's when I suggested to try Ramdev paranayama. Since he was too scared of operation, he did it religiously and rest you already know.
Since you have severe arthritis, I would suggest visiting Ramdev Ashram if you can and consult Acharya Balkishan for some ayurvedic medicines too.
I you need more information from me, this forum is not the right place I think. I live in USA and you can leave voice message with your email and contact number at 510-722-0741
Oh about what doctors say now, he has not gone back to Kanpur and Bombay Doctors. Local relatives are amazed. He still has the X-Rays and I'm thinking of his sending him to Baba Ramdev Ashram in Haridwar to show his case and also give few lacs in donation we saved from operation.
To Rajesh
Thank you very much………….this has been a great inspiration, and I will let you know how I get on
🙂 🙂
so many intellectuals around 😉
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