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		<title>By: Teachers and their forgotten day &#171; A Taste of Life</title>
		<link>http://www.himvani.com/news/2009/06/09/himachal-school-teachers-bring-shame-to-state/3020/#comment-84989</link>
		<dc:creator>Teachers and their forgotten day &#171; A Taste of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See where these schools stand today, just in a span of 40 years. Sarkari teachers have started outsourcing their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Narender Nadda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Narender Nadda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The contents  in support of concerns made by Mr. Gupta are disheartening . Certainly we need to work out the methodology of appointments . In the begining of the career we may expect for younger generation to serve in hard areas . Therefore appointing teachers on every year basis may serve the purpose.  
Govt should actively start recruiting teachers in FEB every year through a consolidated HIMACHAL EDUCATION SERVICES EXAMINATION . Year on year appointments will reduce the tennure of people serving in Hard areas and increase their interest more in work . </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The contents  in support of concerns made by Mr. Gupta are disheartening . Certainly we need to work out the methodology of appointments . In the begining of the career we may expect for younger generation to serve in hard areas . Therefore appointing teachers on every year basis may serve the purpose. </p>
<p>Govt should actively start recruiting teachers in FEB every year through a consolidated HIMACHAL EDUCATION SERVICES EXAMINATION . Year on year appointments will reduce the tennure of people serving in Hard areas and increase their interest more in work .</p>
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		<title>By: Saurabh Gupta</title>
		<link>http://www.himvani.com/news/2009/06/09/himachal-school-teachers-bring-shame-to-state/3020/#comment-79998</link>
		<dc:creator>Saurabh Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we all have to look at the root of the problem. Teachers not showing up at schools, appointing others to proxy for them etc are the symptoms of the problem, and not the problem instead. Let us consider this point- Why are people in the government departments like Education asked to leave their families and work in far away places? Is it not OK to train local people to serve at various position available in their own localities, instead of asking somebody whose family is in say Solan to leave them and go to teach at some interior place in say Lahaul and Spiti district. What are the incentives for such a person to go there- Is it a handsome salary? great perks? or maybe superb facilities provided by the department......what these teachers did is by no means justifiable, but what they did cannot be said to be completely unnatural. Offcourse, human greed and selfishness can never be ruled out or glorified. It is all a question of incentives. we can&#039;t be emotional about this matter. We have to be pragmatic and find solutions so that it is the persons incentives that drives his actions in the right direction and not moral or social directives. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we all have to look at the root of the problem. Teachers not showing up at schools, appointing others to proxy for them etc are the symptoms of the problem, and not the problem instead. Let us consider this point- Why are people in the government departments like Education asked to leave their families and work in far away places? Is it not OK to train local people to serve at various position available in their own localities, instead of asking somebody whose family is in say Solan to leave them and go to teach at some interior place in say Lahaul and Spiti district. What are the incentives for such a person to go there- Is it a handsome salary? great perks? or maybe superb facilities provided by the department&#8230;&#8230;what these teachers did is by no means justifiable, but what they did cannot be said to be completely unnatural. Offcourse, human greed and selfishness can never be ruled out or glorified. It is all a question of incentives. we can&#039;t be emotional about this matter. We have to be pragmatic and find solutions so that it is the persons incentives that drives his actions in the right direction and not moral or social directives.</p>
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		<title>By: aarkay</title>
		<link>http://www.himvani.com/news/2009/06/09/himachal-school-teachers-bring-shame-to-state/3020/#comment-77995</link>
		<dc:creator>aarkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>earlier one would hear of patwaris engaging retired hands for doing revenue work in the field, in some of the states , now teachers have also joined the bandwagon and  we expect better results from our children even if they are left to the mercy of these&quot;kiraye ke teachers&quot;. whither our country? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>earlier one would hear of patwaris engaging retired hands for doing revenue work in the field, in some of the states , now teachers have also joined the bandwagon and  we expect better results from our children even if they are left to the mercy of these&quot;kiraye ke teachers&quot;. whither our country?</p>
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		<title>By: Rakesh Thakur</title>
		<link>http://www.himvani.com/news/2009/06/09/himachal-school-teachers-bring-shame-to-state/3020/#comment-77896</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakesh Thakur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really these things do not matters to the boses of government. you can see another cases of teachers which didnts teaches till today from their appointments. because there are no students in institutions. like in Bharmour college where two science teacher are appointed but didnts teaches their subjects since from 3 years. who will bothers.......and why. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really these things do not matters to the boses of government. you can see another cases of teachers which didnts teaches till today from their appointments. because there are no students in institutions. like in Bharmour college where two science teacher are appointed but didnts teaches their subjects since from 3 years. who will bothers&#8230;&#8230;.and why.</p>
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		<title>By: NITYIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NITYIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems our &lt;i&gt;mai-baap&lt;/i&gt; are hell bent on adopting the UP-Bihar model of governance. What sort of governance can be expected when the chief minister is busy doling out transfer orders leaving no time to pursue other matters. The government has been reduced to &lt;big&gt;GovernMint&lt;/big&gt; and each and every person associated with governance is busy minting the system.  
 
Here is a link to the organisational chart of Education deptt. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.educationhp.org/dept_organisational-setup.html&quot;&gt;http://www.educationhp.org/dept_organisational-se...&lt;/a&gt; I wonder if any of the babus have ever ventured out of their offices in their life time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems our <i>mai-baap</i> are hell bent on adopting the UP-Bihar model of governance. What sort of governance can be expected when the chief minister is busy doling out transfer orders leaving no time to pursue other matters. The government has been reduced to &lt;big&gt;GovernMint&lt;/big&gt; and each and every person associated with governance is busy minting the system. </p>
<p>Here is a link to the organisational chart of Education deptt. <a href="http://www.educationhp.org/dept_organisational-setup.html"></a><a href="http://www.educationhp.org/dept_organisational-se..">http://www.educationhp.org/dept_organisational-se..</a>. I wonder if any of the babus have ever ventured out of their offices in their life time.</p>
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		<title>By: RKS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is shame on the entire educational system of the Himachal Pradesh, perhaps the only example in our country. Is it the duty of vigilance department to check everything? Where is the whole brigade of BEO, DEO, Assistant Director, Deputy Director, Joint Director, Additional Director, Director, Deputy Secretary, Joint Secretary, Special Secretary, and Principal Secretary?  
 
There is no accountability in the system. Everyone is busy in politics and related short cuts. It is not only the teachers who are to be blamed but the whole brigade of officers, who are there to see the education system function properly.  All in the line must be put under suspension. It seems that the whole channel is created just to give promotional benefits and strengthen the red tape and do nothing. Collective responsibility is no one&#8217;s responsibility.  
 
&quot;An inquiry is ordered and appropriate action will be taken against the people found guilty&quot;, this is a standard dialogue of non-performing bosses in the state. In a state where everything is highly politicized, the situation can only be improved, if we get a dynamic and visionary leadership. Unfortunately, we did not find anyone with that calibre. 
 
God take this small and beautiful state out from such a curse! 
 
Another PMT paper leak in news! .....enquiry......arrests.....bail......and &#8230;.nothing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is shame on the entire educational system of the Himachal Pradesh, perhaps the only example in our country. Is it the duty of vigilance department to check everything? Where is the whole brigade of BEO, DEO, Assistant Director, Deputy Director, Joint Director, Additional Director, Director, Deputy Secretary, Joint Secretary, Special Secretary, and Principal Secretary? </p>
<p>There is no accountability in the system. Everyone is busy in politics and related short cuts. It is not only the teachers who are to be blamed but the whole brigade of officers, who are there to see the education system function properly.  All in the line must be put under suspension. It seems that the whole channel is created just to give promotional benefits and strengthen the red tape and do nothing. Collective responsibility is no one&rsquo;s responsibility. </p>
<p>&quot;An inquiry is ordered and appropriate action will be taken against the people found guilty&quot;, this is a standard dialogue of non-performing bosses in the state. In a state where everything is highly politicized, the situation can only be improved, if we get a dynamic and visionary leadership. Unfortunately, we did not find anyone with that calibre.</p>
<p>God take this small and beautiful state out from such a curse!</p>
<p>Another PMT paper leak in news! &#8230;..enquiry&#8230;&#8230;arrests&#8230;..bail&#8230;&#8230;and &hellip;.nothing.</p>
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