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		<title>By: NITYIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NITYIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tikki Bhai!

&lt;DIV ALIGN=JUSTIFY&gt;Are you sure that these acts of terror are the handwork of Indian Muslims. Pakistani establishment has nothing to do with this? I think, Pakistan still has not got over the 1971 defeat and is hell bent on avenging its defeat by creating trouble for us. Earlier it tried in Punjab then in Kashmir and now trying by creating havoc by pan India terror strikes. Be it the pakistani civilian govt or the generals, they have only this one point agenda. Earlier the US supported the radicalization of the Pakistani army and creation of Jehadis to fight the Soviets. Then the US said it is ok for the Jehadis to operate on the eastern border but not on the western border (against the NATO forces). Now US says no troubles in the eastern part too as, they now realize they have created a Frankenstein monster. The Pakistani establishment involvement is far much deeper in all the troubles being created in India. How do you explain a city being taken hostage by 10 men? Of course they were trained by the Pakistani army. Till yesterday, Pakistan was saying there are no terror camps and terrorist leaders on their soil and today we have news of army operation in POK and Lakhwi and Masood being arrested. Where did they come from overnight? 

This evil has to be faced boldly, courageously and fearlessly. This is not about territorial ambitions or strategic things. This is about defense of freedom and liberty of sovereign countries. A theocratic nation which blackmails people &amp; other nations is surely worth fighting for &amp; sooner one does it the sooner it is better. It is naive to think a country will reform when everything they spew out is hatred &amp; venom on their neighbors.&lt;/DIV ALIGN=JUSTIFY&gt;</description>
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<div ALIGN=JUSTIFY>Are you sure that these acts of terror are the handwork of Indian Muslims. Pakistani establishment has nothing to do with this? I think, Pakistan still has not got over the 1971 defeat and is hell bent on avenging its defeat by creating trouble for us. Earlier it tried in Punjab then in Kashmir and now trying by creating havoc by pan India terror strikes. Be it the pakistani civilian govt or the generals, they have only this one point agenda. Earlier the US supported the radicalization of the Pakistani army and creation of Jehadis to fight the Soviets. Then the US said it is ok for the Jehadis to operate on the eastern border but not on the western border (against the NATO forces). Now US says no troubles in the eastern part too as, they now realize they have created a Frankenstein monster. The Pakistani establishment involvement is far much deeper in all the troubles being created in India. How do you explain a city being taken hostage by 10 men? Of course they were trained by the Pakistani army. Till yesterday, Pakistan was saying there are no terror camps and terrorist leaders on their soil and today we have news of army operation in POK and Lakhwi and Masood being arrested. Where did they come from overnight? </p>
<p>This evil has to be faced boldly, courageously and fearlessly. This is not about territorial ambitions or strategic things. This is about defense of freedom and liberty of sovereign countries. A theocratic nation which blackmails people &#038; other nations is surely worth fighting for &#038; sooner one does it the sooner it is better. It is naive to think a country will reform when everything they spew out is hatred &#038; venom on their neighbors.</p></div>
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		<title>By: vikas</title>
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		<dc:creator>vikas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir, comparing terrorism and riots in the same article is like comparing apples to oranges. I just hope you were being scrupulous (PC equivocation, IOW, when islamic terrorists are mentioned, tell the readers about buddhist/sikh/jain/hindu &#039;terrorists&#039; too to maintain balance).

For a second, if I take your &quot;terrorism/riots&quot; logic, how would you explain the killing of Jewish people in Nariman House? What was their fault? For that, you have too go deep in ideological motivations of the terrorists, which I sense, you know better than me but are not able to pen them down for reasons known to you only.

The terrorists have openly admitted that they are killing in the name of religion, so why should we shy away on admitting this as a fact.

Also, the numbers i.e. &quot;over 2000 people dead&quot; in Gujarat riots is all rhetoric and plain wrong? I read in the Govt of India(UPA) report which stated approx 750 muslims and approx 260 Hindus died in the riots. I&#039;ve tried searching on the net for govt reports, came empty.

Lastly, if one wants to win, the first step is to identify the enemy and state his goals for all to see. (one can check for Lashkar e Taiba and its &#039;goals&#039; on the Web). If one cowers in fear in even naming the enemy, who and how does one fight?

jai jwala,
vikas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir, comparing terrorism and riots in the same article is like comparing apples to oranges. I just hope you were being scrupulous (PC equivocation, IOW, when islamic terrorists are mentioned, tell the readers about buddhist/sikh/jain/hindu &#8216;terrorists&#8217; too to maintain balance).</p>
<p>For a second, if I take your &#8220;terrorism/riots&#8221; logic, how would you explain the killing of Jewish people in Nariman House? What was their fault? For that, you have too go deep in ideological motivations of the terrorists, which I sense, you know better than me but are not able to pen them down for reasons known to you only.</p>
<p>The terrorists have openly admitted that they are killing in the name of religion, so why should we shy away on admitting this as a fact.</p>
<p>Also, the numbers i.e. &#8220;over 2000 people dead&#8221; in Gujarat riots is all rhetoric and plain wrong? I read in the Govt of India(UPA) report which stated approx 750 muslims and approx 260 Hindus died in the riots. I&#8217;ve tried searching on the net for govt reports, came empty.</p>
<p>Lastly, if one wants to win, the first step is to identify the enemy and state his goals for all to see. (one can check for Lashkar e Taiba and its &#8216;goals&#8217; on the Web). If one cowers in fear in even naming the enemy, who and how does one fight?</p>
<p>jai jwala,<br />
vikas</p>
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		<title>By: Rohit Nagpal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohit Nagpal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son who is 6yrs old is normally glued to the Nicklodeon or Disney or Cartoon Network, however for the first time he sat with me to watch the news channels and asked the same kind of questions as Tikender&#039;s kid. The blame Pakistan rhetoric that our leaders resort to is foolish and essentially aimed at diverting attention and anger of the people of India from where it should rightly be targeted i.e. our good for nothing leaders. They have failed to protect us. All they have cared is for themselves. Why dont these terrorists go and kill some of these politicians. I for one will not shed a tear for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son who is 6yrs old is normally glued to the Nicklodeon or Disney or Cartoon Network, however for the first time he sat with me to watch the news channels and asked the same kind of questions as Tikender&#8217;s kid. The blame Pakistan rhetoric that our leaders resort to is foolish and essentially aimed at diverting attention and anger of the people of India from where it should rightly be targeted i.e. our good for nothing leaders. They have failed to protect us. All they have cared is for themselves. Why dont these terrorists go and kill some of these politicians. I for one will not shed a tear for them.</p>
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		<title>By: RKS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nityin is very true. I think we should refrain from adopting any of the bi-polar world ideology in toto. Capitalism is a well recognized system throughout the world now. The growth vs. equity debate has to be tackled by the democratic governments. The class conflict can also be minimized in good governed countries adopting socialist patters, e.g., Scandinavian countries.

But the problem with our democracy is entirely different. We all understand the objectives of most Indian leaders. Given a chance everybody is likely behave similarly. We are caught up in a vicious circle of insecurity and me first approach. Only self introspection can take us out of it, that too only if done several times and various levels daily. 
Nothing can be changed unless we all develop a nationalist feeling, which is impossible in current democratic set up. 
If this cannot be altered, we have to stay here in the vicious circle indefinitely. I am very pessimist in this regard, despite knowing all the demerits of such a behavior.

Nice post by Mr. Tikender, Please keep on writing for the betterment of Himachal and India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nityin is very true. I think we should refrain from adopting any of the bi-polar world ideology in toto. Capitalism is a well recognized system throughout the world now. The growth vs. equity debate has to be tackled by the democratic governments. The class conflict can also be minimized in good governed countries adopting socialist patters, e.g., Scandinavian countries.</p>
<p>But the problem with our democracy is entirely different. We all understand the objectives of most Indian leaders. Given a chance everybody is likely behave similarly. We are caught up in a vicious circle of insecurity and me first approach. Only self introspection can take us out of it, that too only if done several times and various levels daily.<br />
Nothing can be changed unless we all develop a nationalist feeling, which is impossible in current democratic set up.<br />
If this cannot be altered, we have to stay here in the vicious circle indefinitely. I am very pessimist in this regard, despite knowing all the demerits of such a behavior.</p>
<p>Nice post by Mr. Tikender, Please keep on writing for the betterment of Himachal and India.</p>
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		<title>By: NITYIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NITYIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tikki Bhai

For the record, the mess in the region started when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and paved way to the Kalashnikov culture in the entire sub continent.</description>
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<p>For the record, the mess in the region started when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and paved way to the Kalashnikov culture in the entire sub continent.</p>
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		<title>By: DS Pathania</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS Pathania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh..what a gibberish post!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh..what a gibberish post!!</p>
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		<title>By: VIVEK MOHAN.</title>
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		<dc:creator>VIVEK MOHAN.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left  Mumbai Central by Rajdhani fr my hometown in Shimla as per schedule 2 research stories fr my films...coming fm 2 local 2 d main stn.i took middle stairs fm d overbridge where i came across an off metal detector unattended...atm @ d stn was casual ...ther was no1 2 check d main entryfr valid tkt holders...few uniformed personnalwalking d sniffer dogs as in a park!On arr in ISBT via Metro in New Delhi (on d election day,29th) ... DO I NEED 2 REPEAT MYSELF?!? May b NO 2 a &quot;dumb &amp; deaf adm&quot; ...on my way on NH22 i read d road signs safety saves ...I got my msg loud &amp; clear...! 
Scotland Yard while commenting on d &#039;failed&#039; ass attemt on Pope John Paul II had said,&quot;They&#039;ve (terrorists) 2 b &#039;lucky only once , we&#039;ve(d forces) 2 b &#039;lucky all d time!&quot;
I think v as citizens have been patient most of d times &amp; authorities have been idiots all d time! IF u don&#039;t agree - i&#039;ll shoot u !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left  Mumbai Central by Rajdhani fr my hometown in Shimla as per schedule 2 research stories fr my films&#8230;coming fm 2 local 2 d main stn.i took middle stairs fm d overbridge where i came across an off metal detector unattended&#8230;atm @ d stn was casual &#8230;ther was no1 2 check d main entryfr valid tkt holders&#8230;few uniformed personnalwalking d sniffer dogs as in a park!On arr in ISBT via Metro in New Delhi (on d election day,29th) &#8230; DO I NEED 2 REPEAT MYSELF?!? May b NO 2 a &#8220;dumb &amp; deaf adm&#8221; &#8230;on my way on NH22 i read d road signs safety saves &#8230;I got my msg loud &amp; clear&#8230;!<br />
Scotland Yard while commenting on d &#8216;failed&#8217; ass attemt on Pope John Paul II had said,&#8221;They&#8217;ve (terrorists) 2 b &#8216;lucky only once , we&#8217;ve(d forces) 2 b &#8216;lucky all d time!&#8221;<br />
I think v as citizens have been patient most of d times &amp; authorities have been idiots all d time! IF u don&#8217;t agree &#8211; i&#8217;ll shoot u !</p>
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